Don't Ever See This

[coldjoint]

Update in Iraq: Good the Americans have accomplished:

2. Over 400,000 kids have up-to-date immunizations.
3. School attendance is up 80% from levels before the war.
4. Over 1,500 schools have been renovated and rid of the weapons stored there so education can occur.
5. The port of Uhm Qasar was renovated so grain can be off-loaded from ships faster.
6. The country had its first 2 billion barrel export of oil in August.
7. Over 4.5 million people have clean drinking water for the first time ever in Iraq.
8. The country now receives 2 times the electrical power it did before the war.
9. 100% of the hospitals are open and fully staffed, compared to 35% before the war.
10. Elections are taking place in every major city, and city councils are in place.
11. Sewer and water lines are installed in every major city.
12. Over 60,000 police are patrolling the streets.
13. Over 100,000 Iraqi civil defense police are securing the country.
14. Over 80,000 Iraqi soldiers are patrolling the streets side by side with US soldiers.
15. Over 400,000 people have telephones for the first time ever.
16. Students are taught field sanitation and hand washing techniques to prevent the spread of germs.
17. An interim constitution has been signed.
18. Girls are allowed to attend school.
19. Textbooks that don't mention Saddam are in the schools for the first time in 30 years.

Don't believe for one second that these people do not want us there. I have met many, many people from Iraq that want us there, and in a bad way. They say they will never see the freedoms we talk about but they hope their children will. We are doing a good job in Iraq and I challenge anyone, anywhere to dispute me on these fact

A lot of these things could have been done if the Islamic system did not facilitate corrupt power hungry leaders. The strong man has always ruled in every Islamic nation.

[Martian Exile]

Textbooks that don't mention Saddam are in the schools for the first time in 30 years

They learn fast from us don't they? There are loads of historical shit conveniently omitted from our own children's text books too!

[FancyFree]

They learn fast from us don't they? There are loads of historical shit conveniently omitted from our own children's text books too!

Yep.

[FAQ]

Update in Iraq: Good the Americans have accomplished:

2. Over 400,000 kids have up-to-date immunizations.
3. School attendance is up 80% from levels before the war.
4. Over 1,500 schools have been renovated and rid of the weapons stored there so education can occur.
5. The port of Uhm Qasar was renovated so grain can be off-loaded from ships faster.
6. The country had its first 2 billion barrel export of oil in August.
7. Over 4.5 million people have clean drinking water for the first time ever in Iraq.
8. The country now receives 2 times the electrical power it did before the war.
9. 100% of the hospitals are open and fully staffed, compared to 35% before the war.
10. Elections are taking place in every major city, and city councils are in place.
11. Sewer and water lines are installed in every major city.
12. Over 60,000 police are patrolling the streets.
13. Over 100,000 Iraqi civil defense police are securing the country.
14. Over 80,000 Iraqi soldiers are patrolling the streets side by side with US soldiers.
15. Over 400,000 people have telephones for the first time ever.
16. Students are taught field sanitation and hand washing techniques to prevent the spread of germs.
17. An interim constitution has been signed.
18. Girls are allowed to attend school.
19. Textbooks that don't mention Saddam are in the schools for the first time in 30 years.

Don't believe for one second that these people do not want us there. I have met many, many people from Iraq that want us there, and in a bad way. They say they will never see the freedoms we talk about but they hope their children will. We are doing a good job in Iraq and I challenge anyone, anywhere to dispute me on these fact

A lot of these things could have been done if the Islamic system did not facilitate corrupt power hungry leaders. The strong man has always ruled in every Islamic nation.

Oh yeah... who made the money off of these projects? Please provide a link.

[coldjoint]

Oh yeah... who made the money off of these projects? Please provide a link.

I will provide a link when someone asks me.

[skunk]

If you asked the Iraqi people if they'd rather have their families and friends blown apart on a daily basis, or electricity, what do you think most of them would say?

[coldjoint]

If you asked the Iraqi people if they'd rather have their families and friends blown apart on a daily basis, or electricity, what do you think most of them would say?

There is a good chance their family and friends were not being killed by Americans, especially now.

[Watchdog]

Update in Iraq: Good the Americans have accomplished:

2. Over 400,000 kids have up-to-date immunizations.
3. School attendance is up 80% from levels before the war.
4. Over 1,500 schools have been renovated and rid of the weapons stored there so education can occur.
5. The port of Uhm Qasar was renovated so grain can be off-loaded from ships faster.
6. The country had its first 2 billion barrel export of oil in August.
7. Over 4.5 million people have clean drinking water for the first time ever in Iraq.
8. The country now receives 2 times the electrical power it did before the war.
9. 100% of the hospitals are open and fully staffed, compared to 35% before the war.
10. Elections are taking place in every major city, and city councils are in place.
11. Sewer and water lines are installed in every major city.
12. Over 60,000 police are patrolling the streets.
13. Over 100,000 Iraqi civil defense police are securing the country.
14. Over 80,000 Iraqi soldiers are patrolling the streets side by side with US soldiers.
15. Over 400,000 people have telephones for the first time ever.
16. Students are taught field sanitation and hand washing techniques to prevent the spread of germs.
17. An interim constitution has been signed.
18. Girls are allowed to attend school.
19. Textbooks that don't mention Saddam are in the schools for the first time in 30 years.

Don't believe for one second that these people do not want us there. I have met many, many people from Iraq that want us there, and in a bad way. They say they will never see the freedoms we talk about but they hope their children will. We are doing a good job in Iraq and I challenge anyone, anywhere to dispute me on these fact

A lot of these things could have been done if the Islamic system did not facilitate corrupt power hungry leaders. The strong man has always ruled in every Islamic nation.

[coldjoint]

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[Watchdog]

This message is hidden because Watchdog is on your ignore list. We are doing a good job in Iraq and I challenge anyone, anywhere to dispute me on these fact

lol, the funny thing is, I take up that challange, i can speak of Afagahnistan war to you, what you have done there what is totally fuckt up, i can speak about iraq war as well to you. but the thing is, you would never accept the facts i wold throw at your face, you would only call me a "nazi" and that im not, you cant ever accept the truth as what it is, what you are denied to hear. and you brand all my muslim friends terrorists, and i have all the rights to brand americans as terrorists, since ive seen it first handed.

[skunk]

There is a good chance their family and friends were not being killed by Americans, especially now.

You're missing the point. Saddam may have been an awful ruler, but the country was fairly stable and there wasn't mass killings on a daily basis. The Iraqi people not only have to live in fear of a foreign military, they have a civil war, and other nations jockying for power, and on top of all that there's private contractors with even less oversight than the actual military (which has none).

[FAQ]

lol, the funny thing is, I take up that challange, i can speak of Afagahnistan war to you, what you have done there what is totally fuckt up, i can speak about iraq war as well to you. but the thing is, you would never accept the facts i wold throw at your face, you would only call me a "nazi" and that im not, you cant ever accept the truth as what it is, what you are denied to hear. and you brand all my muslim friends terrorists, and i have all the rights to brand americans as terrorists, since ive seen it first handed.

Hey Watchdog, I am truly sorry for what you went through. I know how seeing and being part of war can etch the soul with scars that do not go away. I know some days are worse then others as I see it on the people closest to me. Don't let idiots like Cj get to you... We know who you are and we know you are a good person.

[Watchdog]

Hey Watchdog, I am truly sorry for what you went through. I know how seeing and being part of war can etch the soul with scars that do not go away. I know some days are worse then others as I see it on the people closest to me. Don't let idiots like Cj get to you... We know who you are and we know you are a good person.

Thank You.but im kinda annoyed at CJ, for what he is doing, it dosent make any sense at all, not to me or any of the vets. there is only a small % of all vets what are like CJ the rest will speak the truth, tbh CJ is a Facist and a stinking racist.

[Snow Crash]

Oh yeah... who made the money off of these projects? Please provide a link.

I will provide a link when someone asks me.

[Snow Crash]

You're missing the point. Saddam may have been an awful ruler, but the country was fairly stable

Plus he was a secular leader, which is something you'd think a guy who claims to be worried about Islam would be in favour of.

[Martian Exile]

You're missing the point. Saddam may have been an awful ruler, but the country was fairly stable and there wasn't mass killings on a daily basis.

Saddam was a Sunni. The west had a treaty with Turkey at the end of WWI to keep a Sunni ruling Iraq because the majority of Iraqis were Shiite, and they did not want them to unify with the Shiites in Iran. Because the Sunnis were the minority, Saddam had to rule with an iron fist.

Now the Shiites run Iraq. History will show that Bush was a bonehead.

[coldjoint]

Saddam was a Sunni. The west had a treaty with Turkey at the end of WWI to keep a Sunni ruling Iraq because the majority of Iraqis were Shiite, and they did not want them to unify with the Shiites in Iran. Because the Sunnis were the minority, Saddam had to rule with an iron fist.

Now the Shiites run Iraq. History will show that Bush was a bonehead.

History is no longer history, it has morphed into academias interpretation. Facts are reconciled to the trash if they do not serve the purpose of the author. Objectivity has died.

[FAQ]

still no link...

[coldjoint]

still no link...

Still don't care.

[coldjoint]

They learn fast from us don't they? There are loads of historical shit conveniently omitted from our own children's text books too!

http://abcnews.go.com/US/textbooks-p...ry?id=11720998
Textbooks Too Pro-Islam, Anti-Christian, Texas State Education Board Rules

[FAQ]

Still don't care.

why? I thought you wanted to prove your right and 1,000,000,000+ humans are gonna destroy western civilization.

[coldjoint]

why? I thought you wanted to prove your right and 1,000,000,000+ humans are gonna destroy western civilization.

I am. And the ideology is the danger because that is all the majority of that billion hear.

[coldjoint]

You're missing the point. Saddam may have been an awful ruler, but the country was fairly stable and there wasn't mass killings on a daily basis. The Iraqi people not only have to live in fear of a foreign military, they have a civil war, and other nations jockying for power, and on top of all that there's private contractors with even less oversight than the actual military (which has none).

Sadamm did quite a number on the Kurds ,or have you forgotten? And what about the Iraq/Iran war, no fatalities, no dead civilians?

[Set]

Sadamm did quite a number on the Kurds ,or have you forgotten? And what about the Iraq/Iran war, no fatalities, no dead civilians?

All which have fuck all to do with America. Unless you take the following position, which, quite obviously, CJ has in spades.

In this short video clip from FOX News, two astounding pieces of propaganda are put forward. The first is the claim that the United States is the only nation with the "moral authority" to wage pre-emptive war on the rest of the world, because (according to FOX) the US is NOT seeking hegemony.

Apparently, invading ten countries on two continents arises only out of the most humanitarian motives! This comment appears to be the Americanized version of Ariel Sharon's infamous quote, "Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial." But the second comment, that Iran should be annihilated, deserves to be reposted all over the net. Remember back when it was alleged that Ahmadinejad had said he would "wipe Israel off of the map?" ABCNNBBCBSFOX made a huge uproar over what a monstrous thing that was to say, ignoring the fact that Shimon Peres had been saying the same thing about Iran all along. As it turns out, what Ahmadinejad

actually said was that Israel would, because of its own faults, vanish from the pages of history (which many observers agree with) which is not quite the same as calling for its destruction. The skewed translation had been provided to ABCNNBBCBSFOX by MEMRI, a suspected Israeli intelligence operation and the American media, long bribed by Israel to bias the news in their favor repeated the misquote without question, then soundly condemned Iran and Ahmadinejad for that statement.

So now we have FOX News calling for Iran to be annihilated. Not just Ahmadinejad, not just Khamenei, not just Iran's army, but everything and everyone in that nation, which has not actually attacked us! Why? Because according to FOX, they are all "lunatics". Perhaps, in appropriate homage to their ideological roots, they should use the word 'Untermenschen'!

So where is the firestorm of protest when a man gets up on TV and calls for an entire nation to be erased from the face of the Earth, which is what annihilation really means? It seems there is a double standard in the American media; condemnation when Ahmadinejad is merely rumored to have called for another nation to be erased from the face of the Earth, but when Tucker Carlson actually says it in a language we can all understand, there is no protest at all, indeed we see agreement from the faces around him on FOX!

Please share this everywhere you can.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=83LDtji3iEY

Doncha just love the matter-of-fact way he claims divine right to annihilate Iran or anyone else?

[Watchdog]

We are doing a good job in Iraq and I challenge anyone, anywhere to dispute me on these fact

I take the Challange up, are you ready for it.

[pack3tg0st]

Don't believe for one second that these people do not want us there. I have met many, many people from Iraq that want us there, and in a bad way.

Says the guy who's never been lol

Its alot easier for those people you've met to be idealistic when they're not there anymore isn't it?

[pack3tg0st]

I take the Challange up, are you ready for it.

Dun worry about it Watchdog... he's apparently too preoccupied soap boxing to notice that the U.S. left Iraq nearly 2 or 3 months ago...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7BH03320111218

[Watchdog]

Dun worry about it Watchdog... he's apparently too preoccupied soap boxing to notice that the U.S. left Iraq nearly 2 or 3 months ago...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7BH03320111218

ahh, the thing is they said they did leave, but not so, there is few military bases, what are fully operational. and im not so much worried mr.pack, i just want him to stop the BS what he is keeping up, its seriously disturbing.

[pack3tg0st]

ahh, the thing is they said they did leave, but not so, there is few military bases, what are fully operational. and im not so much worried mr.pack, i just want him to stop the BS what he is keeping up, its seriously disturbing.

Thank Sagan you don't have to live with these ppl hahaha

They're everywhere over here!




(and yes, Sagan is god)

[Watchdog]

Thank Sagan you don't have to live with these ppl hahaha

They're everywhere over here!




(and yes, Sagan is god)

im kinda happy for that, but we do have narrow minded fuckwits here as well, oh yea they are neo nazis. they hate every one whos little different.

[skunk]

Sadamm did quite a number on the Kurds ,or have you forgotten? And what about the Iraq/Iran war, no fatalities, no dead civilians?

There was not mass murder on a daily basis like today cold joint. A million+ have died in 8 years, Saddam didn't kill anywhere near that many people (in that short of a time period anyway).

But again you are missing the point, I never said Saddam was a good guy.

[skunk]

Dun worry about it Watchdog... he's apparently too preoccupied soap boxing to notice that the U.S. left Iraq nearly 2 or 3 months ago...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7BH03320111218

Well we didn't really leave.

No, the U.S. is not leaving Iraq

[coldjoint]

Says the guy who's never been lol

Its alot easier for those people you've met to be idealistic when they're not there anymore isn't it?

I didn't say that. That was in the article. Pay attention.