"John Bedell and Joe Stake were not terrorists, they were good friends of mine."

Cogburn · 03-07-2010, 06:54 AM

Had this pop into the inbox today, not from the original sender but as a pass-a-long.

I've seen it on a few other sites, so I'm wondering what the legitimacy of this is.

Let's see how sharp your investigative skills are.

Is there any possibility of identifying a possible author?

GO!

For those who do not know......

Joe Stack was the guy who flew a airplane into the IRS building in Austin,Texas.

And John Bedell was the guy who shot a guard at the Pentagon.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/pentagon-s...ry?id=10017089

John Bedell and Joe Stack were not terrorist, they were good friends of mine. In 1996, we met at an embedded systems conference in Sacramento. I do not feel like typing out all the details, but we hit it off right from the beginning. We begin analysing networks together and by 2002, Joe and I were able to penetrate just about any network connected to the Internet. The correspondence between John, Joe, and I eventually came to a halt, but in February, 2007 I get a call from Joe telling me that we needed to talk in person. I met with him and he spilled his guts to me. He told me about all the unlawful and clandestine operations our government was involved with and also informed me of the level of corruption that has manifested itself in capitol hill. He suggested that we find out what was going on by infiltrating the CIA's as well as the NSA's networks. I was really hesitant about it, but Joe told me that John was on board and pointed me to this website and a couple of others as a nudge of encouragement. My wife had recently passed and I really felt like I had nothing to lose, so the day after his proposal, and after countless hours of pouring over conspiracy theories, I accepted. It was not because my moral standards were as high as Joe's, but more that my wife's death had take a tremendous toll on me, and I went into it for the thrill (it kept my mind preoccupied and off my wife). That was the last time I saw Joe face to face. I did not see John face to face throughout the entire operation, but we communicated through digital mediums.

Joe was the lead man. He orchestrated the entire event, and delegated tasks to people. I am a mathematics professor with a focus in cryptology, so Joe put me in charge of cryptography. I set up secure lines of communication and ran crypt-analysis on ciphered keys John sniffed off the networks. John was in charge of pen testing. If you are going to get caught, it will be during pen testing, since this the most intrusive part of the entire process. It had been years since we had worked together as a team, and Joe and John were not up to date on the latest network and software security practices. We started on private networks and worked our way up to large corporations. By 2009 we were prepared to undertake the task at hand.

Joe kept things compartmentalised during the operation. We were given information on a need to know basis. I do not know what methods Joe used to attack what networks, or even what files he was after, I was only given cipher-texts and expected to return the clear-text. John was in charge of anti-forensics and clean-up. But, I knew something went wrong when Joe called me. I immediately knew right off the bat that something was amiss, when I heard John in the background. That was our number one rule: no face-to-face contact. His first words, "It's way bigger than anybody could have ever dreamed. Look at today's date. Listen to the audio-file I just sent you and then look at the time-stamp and at today's date again". I honestly thought I was busted. I thought it was a government agent trying to be funny. The date was February 15, and, I will not ever forget this, the audio file was last modified about an hour before I listened to it. The clip was of the end of a hockey game and as the commentator wrapped things up, he said something along the lines of "Thrasers: 7, Kings: 6. Thanks for listening to us on this Monday night". At first I didn't understand. I didn't even have a clue as to what was going on until Joe sent me more of the archives which had every digital video, and audio, broadcasts for events that were supposed to happen tomorrow, but had not happened yet. Confirmation finally came that this was not just some sort of hoax database kept for fun, when we tuned into the Thrashers-Kings game and the final score was Thrashers: 7, Kings: 6.
After brainstorming and researching for days, they finally discovered the database was being written to via satellite. And from there things clicked into place. The NSA is able to see approximately 27 hours 42 minutes and 33 seconds into the future of the world. This is done through a satellite. The satellite is able to take images of earth, a selected number of video and audio broadcasts (the majority of it is news) routed to the satellite by communications on the ground up, to roughly 27 hours before it happens. As every second goes by it is slowly gaining the ability to see further into the future. I'm not going to expand any further here, but to say the satellite is able to do this because of a flaw in the way the Lorentz transformations were derived.

This is my insurance. They have already kill Joe and John, and in such a way that they made them out to be monsters to the public. They will not do this to me. This is the way it works. If they kill me, abduct me or anything, all evidence including the properly derived Lorrentz transformations are to be automatically posted here. I must be present at my computer at 5:29 a.m. (my timezone) everyday in order to keep this posts from happening because 174 servers spanning the globe are set to ensure that happens automatically unless my password is entered. If the government tries to take this site out or this page, I have created a virus that will spread on a massive scale and automatically upload all the evidence I have against them to the victims PC, so at the very least thousands will know the truth but most likely millions. My password cannot be cracked. It would take longer to crack an 8096 bit RSA encryption key, than my self-made encryption system. My initials are T.S.G. and I am a Mathematics professor. This shall ensure if they kill me and try to slander my name in the media, there will be at least a few people who know the truth I'm not telling everything here because then they would kill me. It's the only bargaining chip I have left.

KIWI · 03-07-2010, 07:32 AM

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27 hours 42 minutes and 33 seconds into the future of the world

thats the length of Bruce Cathies "grid" day

KIWI · 03-07-2010, 07:43 AM

and I spammed a link to this thread through f-book

Cogburn · 03-07-2010, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KIWI

thats the length of Bruce Cathies "grid" day

What the fuck....

No way. That's beyond coincidence.

See if you can get the man to comment on it.

hp · 03-07-2010, 12:47 PM

Bogus.

boycotteverything · 03-07-2010, 12:56 PM

Sounds made up out of whole cloth. But the Bruce Cathy allusion is astounding.

hp · 03-07-2010, 12:58 PM

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Investigators were trying to unravel a bizarre series of Internet postings that suggested Bedell was fascinated with conspiracy theories, computer programming, libertarian economics and the science of warfare.

Curiously, Bedell also proposed in 2004 that the Pentagon fund his own research on smart weapons. The 28-page proposal outlined his idea for DNA nanotechnology research that might "provide significant new capabilities for the Department of Defense and the individual warfighter."

That document is the first tangible link to surface connecting Bedell and the Pentagon.

boycotteverything · 03-07-2010, 01:03 PM

Bruce will not be happy with this.

hp · 03-07-2010, 01:03 PM

Protect yourself by being anonymous to the world. Get wacked and no one knows until the next anonymous guy claims to know the story.

Looks like the typical internet story.

Hazelnut · 03-07-2010, 01:17 PM

IF the guy oversleeps, the cat will be out of the bag.

Not buying it.

MrPenny · 03-07-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cogburn

No way. That's beyond coincidence.

How so....that "grid day" is all over the Internet. And if someone were trying to author a spooky spy scenario....why not throw that McGuffin into the pot?

hp · 03-07-2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPenny

How so....that "grid day" is all over the Internet. And if someone were trying to author a spooky spy scenario....why not throw that McGuffin into the pot?

Exactly, it is seen often. Use it as a evidence when in fact it doesn't actually tie.

boycotteverything · 03-07-2010, 01:42 PM

CT conflation at its best.

MrPenny · 03-07-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by boycotteverything

CT conflation at its best.

Precisely, it is a classic example of pulling random shit together to create whatever fits the author's goals.

I wonder if Zorgon wrote that shit......that's right up his alley.

Snow Crash · 03-07-2010, 05:29 PM

Well that was an entertaining waste of time.

Cogburn · 03-07-2010, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPenny

How so....that "grid day" is all over the Internet. And if someone were trying to author a spooky spy scenario....why not throw that McGuffin into the pot?

Ummm.. that was a possibility that wasn't ever discounted.

I said it was "beyond coincidence," but I didn't try to interpret how.

KIWI · 03-07-2010, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by hp

Protect yourself by being anonymous to the world. Get wacked and no one knows until the next anonymous guy claims to know the story.

Looks like the typical internet story.

errr,...yeah, with your proven ties to NASA HP Im a bit suspicious of your quick defence here

hp · 03-07-2010, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KIWI

errr,...yeah, with your proven ties to NASA HP Im a bit suspicious of your quick defence here

Did you mean NSA or actually NASA?

KIWI · 03-07-2010, 07:12 PM

and did ya hear?... there's a concert on the far-side of the moon this week-end, ....tickets 250.00USD per head, all enquiries to "kiwi-needs-the-money".com .... cash only, no cheques!

hp · 03-07-2010, 07:14 PM

Bummer, before those Kiwi scalpers got all the tickets, they were only 125.

KIWI · 03-07-2010, 07:23 PM

...... giving a leg up to the proponents of "inflation-theory"

that price aint that bad!.... all the green-cheese you can eat at the interval..

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Did you mean NSA or actually NASA?

he he... you tell us! ( puts suspicious look on face)

hp · 03-07-2010, 07:28 PM

For a quarter million I assume transportation is included.

KIWI · 03-07-2010, 07:52 PM

indeed,.... transport supplied by 'Space-Pigeons inc" .... get in early for a window seat

MrPenny · 03-07-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cogburn

I said it was "beyond coincidence," but I didn't try to interpret how.

Interpret? I thought you did with "No way." Sorry, but I thought your comments were foreshadowing the possibility of some bizarre synchronicity. If "beyond coincidence" implies some kind of continuum, with mundane, everyday shit on one end....and hand-of-god lightning bolt on the other.....the choice of words seemed odd to me.

I thought it was on the mundane, everyday shit end. Some dude yanked some obscure metaphysical measurement from the Internet to add to the "gee whiz" factor.

Other than that.....that's the kind of article that regularly is held in extremely high esteem at places like ATS.

Star and Flag for You!!!!!

MrPenny · 03-07-2010, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KIWI

indeed,.... transport supplied by 'Space-Pigeons inc" .... get in early for a window seat

Where's the window on a pigeon?

KIWI · 03-07-2010, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPenny

Where's the window on a pigeon?

under the tail feathers.... you keen?

hp · 03-07-2010, 08:43 PM

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Star and Flag for You

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Cogburn · 03-07-2010, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPenny

Interpret? I thought you did with "No way." Sorry, but I thought your comments were foreshadowing the possibility of some bizarre synchronicity. If "beyond coincidence" implies some kind of continuum, with mundane, everyday shit on one end....and hand-of-god lightning bolt on the other.....the choice of words seemed odd to me.

I thought it was on the mundane, everyday shit end. Some dude yanked some obscure metaphysical measurement from the Internet to add to the "gee whiz" factor.

Other than that.....that's the kind of article that regularly is held in extremely high esteem at places like ATS.

Cathie's comments would be important because it would go to show how well the person that drafted that letter understands the theories. Was it just random or was it actually by intent?

If you actually read my OP, this is towards discovering who wrote this letter or at least where it originated. The inclusion and successful incorporation of Cathie's theories might be a rather significant clue as to who the culprit might be when placed in context with other information.

Yeah, I guess you could read those comments that way if this were ATS... except it's not.

Maybe you should stop going there so your mind doesn't only work in one direction.

boycotteverything · 03-07-2010, 09:00 PM

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some obscure metaphysical measurement

don't let the flightless bird with hairy feathers see that or you'll end up with an arcane wall of type to contend with.

KIWI · 03-07-2010, 09:03 PM

[SPOILER]BOO!![/SPOILER]

boycotteverything · 03-07-2010, 09:04 PM

boo? that ain't no steeenking wall 'o type.

MrPenny · 03-07-2010, 09:13 PM

2.9 million results when googling Bruce Cathie. It isn't particularly obscure to anyone who follows the UFO meme with any intensity. That would increase the size of the potential author pool significantly.

For what it's worth.....I think the text was written by someone who put either a significant amount of time into it.....or hit an extremely unlikely streak of coincidences.

The initials, T.S.G.....aka, The Smoking Gun? Or, more odd, Topic Study Groups? Very much associated with mathematics?

My initial intuition is that there is no single author of the text. For some reason I'm leaning towards a consortium of sorts.

MrPenny · 03-07-2010, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by boycotteverything

the flightless bird with hairy feathers

What's an apteryx have to do with it?

Ha.....I am a huge Johnny Hart fan.

boycotteverything · 03-07-2010, 09:18 PM

I happen to own FEMA's entire hoard of Cathie books. I use them for heating my shack in the winter. A certain flightless hairy bird is aware of this and he's very pissed. I could say more but I'm sworn to secrecy. Thank you.

Cogburn · 03-07-2010, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPenny

2.9 million results when googling Bruce Cathie. It isn't particularly obscure to anyone who follows the UFO meme with any intensity. That would increase the size of the potential author pool significantly.

For what it's worth.....I think the text was written by someone who put either a significant amount of time into it.....or hit an extremely unlikely streak of coincidences.

The initials, T.S.G.....aka, The Smoking Gun? Or, more odd, Topic Study Groups? Very much associated with mathematics?

My initial intuition is that there is no single author of the text. For some reason I'm leaning towards a consortium of sorts.

Well, argument by Google... you must be right.

C'mon dude. It's not a matter of being able to find the guy's name, it's being familiar with it, and mainstream conspiracy theory, to hone in on something like that and successfully incorporate it into a hoax.

I mean, if he were going to go on something that was prolifically available via Google search, why not just tie it into David Icke, Nikola Tesla, or Richard Hoagland's crazy math?

You're being dismissive of the fact without good cause.

hp · 03-07-2010, 09:39 PM

Is anyone else promoting that the NSA can see into the future?

hp · 03-07-2010, 09:42 PM

Anyway, if this were true then the intelligence community is very flawed or corrupt. Even with 24 hour notice they still can't stop events, or so it seems.

I suppose many will claim they are stopping hundreds of attacks a week but no one realizes it.

MrPenny · 03-07-2010, 09:48 PM

For fuck's sake Cogburn....I adjusted my approach......maybe taking the stick out of your ass would be a good adjustment?

That was nothing like an "argument by Google." It was an argument of scale. Thowing it aside with, "why not just tie it into David Icke, Nikola Tesla, or Richard Hoagland's crazy math?", is in fact, being "dismissive of the fact." The fact being the ease at which anyone who follows this stuff could pluck any random friggin set of numbers to bolster a story. You're right in a way....why not something from hyperdimensional physics? Who the fuck knows? The point I was trying to make is, that choice of "esoteric" knowledge isn't a particularly important piece of the puzzle.

It isn't obscure enough.

It appears the text first started as a post on GLP....since then, the membership there has gone bonkers accusing moderators of hiding the original post and screwing around with the time stamps.

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to hone in on something like that and successfully incorporate it into a hoax.

Say what? This isn't the friggin' Manhattan Project. You, me, and a pile of other people know, there isn't anything special about this kind of shit. An Internet connection, time, and some creativity is all it takes.

MrPenny · 03-07-2010, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hp

Is anyone else promoting that the NSA can see into the future?

If they could, they would have had 27 hours + to cut "T.S.G." off at the pass.

hp · 03-07-2010, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPenny

If they could, they would have had 27 hours + to cut "T.S.G." off at the pass.

I was wondering if another CT man was promoting the future vision. If not, the author used would be logically, the only one.

Guess the guy got it done and out with the 27 hours window.

03-07-2010, 06:54 AM	#1
Cogburn a.k.a. "Mr. Ethics" Known Sock or Troll Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Divided by zero Posts: 11,816	"John Bedell and Joe Stake were not terrorists, they were good friends of mine." Had this pop into the inbox today, not from the original sender but as a pass-a-long. I've seen it on a few other sites, so I'm wondering what the legitimacy of this is. Let's see how sharp your investigative skills are. Is there any possibility of identifying a possible author? GO! For those who do not know...... Joe Stack was the guy who flew a airplane into the IRS building in Austin,Texas. And John Bedell was the guy who shot a guard at the Pentagon. http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/pentagon-s...ry?id=10017089 John Bedell and Joe Stack were not terrorist, they were good friends of mine. In 1996, we met at an embedded systems conference in Sacramento. I do not feel like typing out all the details, but we hit it off right from the beginning. We begin analysing networks together and by 2002, Joe and I were able to penetrate just about any network connected to the Internet. The correspondence between John, Joe, and I eventually came to a halt, but in February, 2007 I get a call from Joe telling me that we needed to talk in person. I met with him and he spilled his guts to me. He told me about all the unlawful and clandestine operations our government was involved with and also informed me of the level of corruption that has manifested itself in capitol hill. He suggested that we find out what was going on by infiltrating the CIA's as well as the NSA's networks. I was really hesitant about it, but Joe told me that John was on board and pointed me to this website and a couple of others as a nudge of encouragement. My wife had recently passed and I really felt like I had nothing to lose, so the day after his proposal, and after countless hours of pouring over conspiracy theories, I accepted. It was not because my moral standards were as high as Joe's, but more that my wife's death had take a tremendous toll on me, and I went into it for the thrill (it kept my mind preoccupied and off my wife). That was the last time I saw Joe face to face. I did not see John face to face throughout the entire operation, but we communicated through digital mediums. Joe was the lead man. He orchestrated the entire event, and delegated tasks to people. I am a mathematics professor with a focus in cryptology, so Joe put me in charge of cryptography. I set up secure lines of communication and ran crypt-analysis on ciphered keys John sniffed off the networks. John was in charge of pen testing. If you are going to get caught, it will be during pen testing, since this the most intrusive part of the entire process. It had been years since we had worked together as a team, and Joe and John were not up to date on the latest network and software security practices. We started on private networks and worked our way up to large corporations. By 2009 we were prepared to undertake the task at hand. Joe kept things compartmentalised during the operation. We were given information on a need to know basis. I do not know what methods Joe used to attack what networks, or even what files he was after, I was only given cipher-texts and expected to return the clear-text. John was in charge of anti-forensics and clean-up. But, I knew something went wrong when Joe called me. I immediately knew right off the bat that something was amiss, when I heard John in the background. That was our number one rule: no face-to-face contact. His first words, "It's way bigger than anybody could have ever dreamed. Look at today's date. Listen to the audio-file I just sent you and then look at the time-stamp and at today's date again". I honestly thought I was busted. I thought it was a government agent trying to be funny. The date was February 15, and, I will not ever forget this, the audio file was last modified about an hour before I listened to it. The clip was of the end of a hockey game and as the commentator wrapped things up, he said something along the lines of "Thrasers: 7, Kings: 6. Thanks for listening to us on this Monday night". At first I didn't understand. I didn't even have a clue as to what was going on until Joe sent me more of the archives which had every digital video, and audio, broadcasts for events that were supposed to happen tomorrow, but had not happened yet. Confirmation finally came that this was not just some sort of hoax database kept for fun, when we tuned into the Thrashers-Kings game and the final score was Thrashers: 7, Kings: 6. After brainstorming and researching for days, they finally discovered the database was being written to via satellite. And from there things clicked into place. The NSA is able to see approximately 27 hours 42 minutes and 33 seconds into the future of the world. This is done through a satellite. The satellite is able to take images of earth, a selected number of video and audio broadcasts (the majority of it is news) routed to the satellite by communications on the ground up, to roughly 27 hours before it happens. As every second goes by it is slowly gaining the ability to see further into the future. I'm not going to expand any further here, but to say the satellite is able to do this because of a flaw in the way the Lorentz transformations were derived. This is my insurance. They have already kill Joe and John, and in such a way that they made them out to be monsters to the public. They will not do this to me. This is the way it works. If they kill me, abduct me or anything, all evidence including the properly derived Lorrentz transformations are to be automatically posted here. I must be present at my computer at 5:29 a.m. (my timezone) everyday in order to keep this posts from happening because 174 servers spanning the globe are set to ensure that happens automatically unless my password is entered. If the government tries to take this site out or this page, I have created a virus that will spread on a massive scale and automatically upload all the evidence I have against them to the victims PC, so at the very least thousands will know the truth but most likely millions. My password cannot be cracked. It would take longer to crack an 8096 bit RSA encryption key, than my self-made encryption system. My initials are T.S.G. and I am a Mathematics professor. This shall ensure if they kill me and try to slander my name in the media, there will be at least a few people who know the truth I'm not telling everything here because then they would kill me. It's the only bargaining chip I have left. __________________ `Really, now you ask me,' said Alice, very much confused, `I don't think--' `Then you shouldn't talk,' said the Hatter. The problem is all inside your head, she said to me. The answer is easy if you take it logically. I want to help you in your struggle to be free. - Paul Simon Yes, I am a 32° freemason. No, I don't know where the Ark is. No, I don't know where the Grail is. No, I have never been to the Moon, and don't even ask me about "The Da Vinci Code."

03-07-2010, 07:43 AM	#3
KIWI Amkoidal Akolyte Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: flat 1 lonely street Posts: 6,337	Re: "John Bedell and Joe Stake were not terrorists, they were good friends of mine." and I spammed a link to this thread through f-book __________________ "When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly realized I was talking to myself." Peter O`Toole "The purpose of science is to investigate the unexplained, not to explain the uninvestigated." ~Dr. Stephen Rorke "I love deadlines. I especially love the whooshing sound they make as they fly by" Douglas Adams

03-07-2010, 12:47 PM	#5
hp Amkoidal Akolyte Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Overhead Posts: 8,566	Re: "John Bedell and Joe Stake were not terrorists, they were good friends of mine." Bogus.

03-07-2010, 12:56 PM	#6
boycotteverything Amkon Rex Abjectus Known Sock or Troll Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 12,835	Re: "John Bedell and Joe Stake were not terrorists, they were good friends of mine." Sounds made up out of whole cloth. But the Bruce Cathy allusion is astounding. __________________ AmKon T&C Version 3.0 reeducate the seal©fixt™

03-07-2010, 01:03 PM	#8
boycotteverything Amkon Rex Abjectus Known Sock or Troll Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 12,835	Re: "John Bedell and Joe Stake were not terrorists, they were good friends of mine." Bruce will not be happy with this. __________________ AmKon T&C Version 3.0 reeducate the seal©fixt™

03-07-2010, 01:17 PM	#10
Hazelnut Pussycat Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: iWander Posts: 6,917	Re: "John Bedell and Joe Stake were not terrorists, they were good friends of mine." IF the guy oversleeps, the cat will be out of the bag. Not buying it. __________________ WandererInTheWild

03-07-2010, 01:42 PM	#13
boycotteverything Amkon Rex Abjectus Known Sock or Troll Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 12,835	Re: "John Bedell and Joe Stake were not terrorists, they were good friends of mine." CT conflation at its best. __________________ AmKon T&C Version 3.0 reeducate the seal©fixt™

03-07-2010, 05:29 PM	#15
Snow Crash The Sentinel Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 7,050	Re: "John Bedell and Joe Stake were not terrorists, they were good friends of mine." Well that was an entertaining waste of time. __________________ I am Jack's smirking revenge

03-07-2010, 07:12 PM	#19
KIWI Amkoidal Akolyte Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: flat 1 lonely street Posts: 6,337	Re: "John Bedell and Joe Stake were not terrorists, they were good friends of mine." and did ya hear?... there's a concert on the far-side of the moon this week-end, ....tickets 250.00USD per head, all enquiries to "kiwi-needs-the-money".com .... cash only, no cheques! __________________ "When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly realized I was talking to myself." Peter O`Toole "The purpose of science is to investigate the unexplained, not to explain the uninvestigated." ~Dr. Stephen Rorke "I love deadlines. I especially love the whooshing sound they make as they fly by" Douglas Adams

03-07-2010, 07:14 PM	#20
hp Amkoidal Akolyte Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Overhead Posts: 8,566	Re: "John Bedell and Joe Stake were not terrorists, they were good friends of mine." Bummer, before those Kiwi scalpers got all the tickets, they were only 125.

03-07-2010, 07:28 PM	#22
hp Amkoidal Akolyte Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Overhead Posts: 8,566	Re: "John Bedell and Joe Stake were not terrorists, they were good friends of mine." For a quarter million I assume transportation is included.

03-07-2010, 07:52 PM	#23
KIWI Amkoidal Akolyte Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: flat 1 lonely street Posts: 6,337	Re: "John Bedell and Joe Stake were not terrorists, they were good friends of mine." indeed,.... transport supplied by 'Space-Pigeons inc" .... get in early for a window seat __________________ "When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly realized I was talking to myself." Peter O`Toole "The purpose of science is to investigate the unexplained, not to explain the uninvestigated." ~Dr. Stephen Rorke "I love deadlines. I especially love the whooshing sound they make as they fly by" Douglas Adams

03-07-2010, 09:03 PM	#30
KIWI Amkoidal Akolyte Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: flat 1 lonely street Posts: 6,337	Re: "John Bedell and Joe Stake were not terrorists, they were good friends of mine." [SPOILER]BOO!![/SPOILER] __________________ "When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly realized I was talking to myself." Peter O`Toole "The purpose of science is to investigate the unexplained, not to explain the uninvestigated." ~Dr. Stephen Rorke "I love deadlines. I especially love the whooshing sound they make as they fly by" Douglas Adams

03-07-2010, 09:04 PM	#31
boycotteverything Amkon Rex Abjectus Known Sock or Troll Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 12,835	Re: "John Bedell and Joe Stake were not terrorists, they were good friends of mine." boo? that ain't no steeenking wall 'o type. __________________ AmKon T&C Version 3.0 reeducate the seal©fixt™

03-07-2010, 09:13 PM	#32
MrPenny Default User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,245	Re: "John Bedell and Joe Stake were not terrorists, they were good friends of mine." 2.9 million results when googling Bruce Cathie. It isn't particularly obscure to anyone who follows the UFO meme with any intensity. That would increase the size of the potential author pool significantly. For what it's worth.....I think the text was written by someone who put either a significant amount of time into it.....or hit an extremely unlikely streak of coincidences. The initials, T.S.G.....aka, The Smoking Gun? Or, more odd, Topic Study Groups? Very much associated with mathematics? My initial intuition is that there is no single author of the text. For some reason I'm leaning towards a consortium of sorts. __________________ "I can't be arsed to repeat it over and over again.", BE2, July 22, 2010

03-07-2010, 09:18 PM	#34
boycotteverything Amkon Rex Abjectus Known Sock or Troll Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 12,835	Re: "John Bedell and Joe Stake were not terrorists, they were good friends of mine." I happen to own FEMA's entire hoard of Cathie books. I use them for heating my shack in the winter. A certain flightless hairy bird is aware of this and he's very pissed. I could say more but I'm sworn to secrecy. Thank you. __________________ AmKon T&C Version 3.0 reeducate the seal©fixt™

03-07-2010, 09:39 PM	#36
hp Amkoidal Akolyte Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Overhead Posts: 8,566	Re: "John Bedell and Joe Stake were not terrorists, they were good friends of mine." Is anyone else promoting that the NSA can see into the future?

03-07-2010, 09:42 PM	#37
hp Amkoidal Akolyte Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Overhead Posts: 8,566	Re: "John Bedell and Joe Stake were not terrorists, they were good friends of mine." Anyway, if this were true then the intelligence community is very flawed or corrupt. Even with 24 hour notice they still can't stop events, or so it seems. I suppose many will claim they are stopping hundreds of attacks a week but no one realizes it.

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