Why the USA/Consumerism is not Evil and the NWO is ok.

[Royal]

Intro
We are not a perfect society and we will never be. As a good friend once said, "there will always be a asshole in every group". Even mother Earth is a bitch and wipe your entire peaceful village away with a pyroclastic flow.
But pull your chins up chaps, we are becoming a more peaceful society every day.

The upshot: violence may be part of our nature, but so are cooperation and reconciliation, traits we may have inherited from our primate ancestors. Over the course of history, there is evidence that we're figuring out how to get along better, or at least recognizing that it's to our benefit not to whack each other's heads off.

Barbara L. and Norman C. Tanner Center for Nonviolent Human Rights Advocacy
So why are we so mad?
We awoke from the amount of bullshit of our past and present. We look at things differently, a commercial is not the same as it did when we were 13.
We realize the rich have a better time to stay rich, and that they have indirect control over the poor.

Realizing we are not leaders of events that will change our lives as well as our grand children may be quite difficult to accept. Anyways, who wants that job? We may not have the stomach to be responsible for thousands and maybe millions of lives.

The rich of today didn't make the system, it was already there. They were baptized in the same timeline. With money and gold that has value, and with parents with traditions. All we did was come out of different vaginas.


Now that we have the knowlege, we can only blame ourself.
We put society to blame before we blame ourselves. It may not be our fault, because we didn't know better. We may have been raised by parents who were completely brainwashed into the culture or they didn't have the skills or ability to discipline us for the cruel world.

It's still a fucking jungle out there -Don't let the high rise buildings, paved roads with streetlights, and golf courses fool you. I'm sure we all realized this a couple Octobers ago when the stock market crashed. -We are always in a sea of uncertainty.

Consumerism and marketing only profits from ignorance. Our power not to say no, our friends and family not to say no.

So what now?
1. You are already participating in the new world order.
Not only that, you are doing nothing about it. You go on CT websites and bitch rather then organizing and using your brain to restructure the system. Imagine you are to die in two years, what would you do? Are you willing to make sacrifices and build a team to help save humanity, or will you build an entourage to party your ass off? Choice is yours. Time is ticking.


2. You will be happier going with the flow of humanity's evolution.
People will fit like puzzle pieces to world events anyway, and become part of the transformation of our NWO. You are already siting back and relaxing after some good masturbation anyway...

3. Make the right choices.
You know what's good for your body and children. Make the right choices or else others will choose for you.


This message is sponsored by Royal- A Manchurian Candidate and product of Amkon International.

[MissSilver]

Why the USA/Consumerism is not Evil?


It is evil.

[Royal]

Why the USA/Consumerism is not Evil?


It is evil.

Are spiders evil for spinning a web for a fly?

[Royal]

And read the thread before ya post.

[anarch]

why?

[Royal]

why?

lol. ok, just read the title and post. Your too cool anarch. Can't argue with you

[anarch]

1. You are already participating in the new world order.
Not only that, you are doing nothing about it.

Now that is alot of assumption. I enjoy my time here and yet I enjoy my extra curricular activities too. I never got a secret service visit but then I never got caught either.

Impacting communication my friend. The same words that bombard us to be compliant can be twisted to make us dissident. And it is a wonderful thing to watch the transformation happen.

[Jackinthebox]

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[Royal]

Now that is alot of assumption. I enjoy my time here and yet I enjoy my extra curricular activities too. I never got a secret service visit but then I never got caught either.

Impacting communication my friend. The same words that bombard us to be compliant can be twisted to make us dissident. And it is a wonderful thing to watch the transformation happen.

1st paragraph
Thats the problem. You are not thinking with the whole in mind. Yes anarch. Your doing something, but what about 99% of readers and viewers of amkon? Or how about the world?

2nd
I agree.

[Cogburn]

1. You are already participating in the new world order.
Not only that, you are doing nothing about it. You go on CT websites and bitch rather then organizing and using your brain to restructure the system. Imagine you are to die in two years, what would you do? Are you willing to make sacrifices and build a team to help save humanity, or will you build an entourage to party your ass off? Choice is yours. Time is ticking.

This is why the internet is evil: it's used as a substitute for participation in groups in their community that can take real action.

CT'ers cry "I'd love to do something like that but there's no one else near me that sees it!" The obvious solution is to troll the internet "reaching out" for "like minded" individuals, right?

All of the revolutionary thought, literature, music and philosophy that emerged from the 1960s happened without the internet. The Renaissance happened without the internet.

How did that happen? People talked to each other. The coffee house intelligencia isn't dead. If no one believes you then you have two choices: refine your argument until someone does or consider the possibility that you are just wrong. If you're lucky, perhaps you'll run into someone that actually has something going on and you could participate.

I guess it doesn't exist unless its in a forum or you can Google for it. I guess there's no possibility what-so-ever of you making it in your community, yourself.

CT'ers are just whiny, lazy bitches that, were they alive 400 years ago, would be hunting for witches and heretics on behalf of the Inquisition.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_v-acO_kk7YU/SYjD-M-HFhI/AAAAAAAAALQ/n9M5PHHX0tE/s400/monty_python_witch-701441.jpg

[Royal]

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/superjackinthebox/16025009.gif

We are not all dead yet. We made some mistakes. Who doesn't.

[Jackinthebox]

This is why the internet is evil: it's used as a substitute for participation in groups in their community that can take real action.

CT'ers cry "I'd love to do something like that but there's no one else near me that sees it!" The obvious solution is to troll the internet "reaching out" for "like minded" individuals, right?

All of the revolutionary thought, literature, music and philosophy that emerged from the 1960s happened without the internet. The Renaissance happened without the internet.

How did that happen? People talked to each other. The coffee house intelligencia isn't dead. If no one believes you then you have two choices: refine your argument until someone does or consider the possibility that you are just wrong. If you're lucky, perhaps you'll run into someone that actually has something going on and you could participate.

I guess it doesn't exist unless its in a forum or you can Google for it. I guess there's no possibility what-so-ever of you making it in your community, yourself.

CT'ers are just whiny, lazy bitches that, were they alive 400 years ago, would be hunting for witches and heretics on behalf of the Inquisition.

You have a certain point there, but fail to talk about the fact that we are more like the ANTI mission creep. We don't need to organize in identifiable groups. We are cells, interacting, communicating, learning, moving, changing...

[Royal]

This is why the internet is evil: it's used as a substitute for participation in groups in their community that can take real action.

CT'ers cry "I'd love to do something like that but there's no one else near me that sees it!" The obvious solution is to troll the internet "reaching out" for "like minded" individuals, right?

All of the revolutionary thought, literature, music and philosophy that emerged from the 1960s happened without the internet. The Renaissance happened without the internet.

How did that happen? People talked to each other. The coffee house intelligencia isn't dead. If no one believes you then you have two choices: refine your argument until someone does or consider the possibility that you are just wrong. If you're lucky, perhaps you'll run into someone that actually has something going on and you could participate.

I guess it doesn't exist unless its in a forum or you can Google for it. I guess there's no possibility what-so-ever of you making it in your community, yourself.

CT'ers are just whiny, lazy bitches that, were they alive 400 years ago, would be hunting for witches and heretics on behalf of the Inquisition.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_v-acO_kk7YU/SYjD-M-HFhI/AAAAAAAAALQ/n9M5PHHX0tE/s400/monty_python_witch-701441.jpg

The internet is not evil. Hope it was sarcasm. It can spread ideas at incredible speed. Good one's and bad. If it were, then we would have the brains not to be on it. Murdering a billion lives for fun or profit is evil. Not the internet. There is just abuse. Too much of anything is bad.

But everything else I agree 100%. Cogburn, I will follow you into battle any day.

[Royal]

You have a certain point there, but fail to talk about the fact that we are more like the ANTI mission creep. We don't need to organize in identifiable groups. We are cells, interacting, communicating, learning, moving, changing...


fuck. We are now tagged by the CIA.

[Jackinthebox]

We are not all dead yet. We made some mistakes. Who doesn't.

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/superjackinthebox/1984.gif

[Royal]

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/superjackinthebox/1984.gif

ahaha

[Jackinthebox]

But everything else I agree 100%. Cogburn, I will follow you into battle any day.

Cannon fodder.

Fuck Cog and his declared affiliations.

[Jackinthebox]

fuck. We are now tagged by the CIA.

All your base are belong to us.

[Snow Crash]

Now that is alot of assumption.

Or possibly a feeble attempt at goading people into responding with an action list.

Information hygeine is your friend.

[Royal]

Or possibly a feeble attempt at goading people into responding with an action list.

Information hygeine is your friend.


What?

First what's "goading"? Second, I don't give a fuck about an "action list".

I know anarch's- Break windows, graffiti, and poo poo on statues. Or maybe a variation thereof. And bringing in recruits to do the same thing.

But no offense anarch, just having fun here.

[Snow Crash]

So you are just assuming a lot about people you have no information on?

[Royal]

So you are just assuming a lot about people you have no information on?

Assume, or common knowlege of forum members. If you were organized, then your assistants will be online viewing and posting intel. Not chatting and ranting over bullshit. Leaders don't have time for this shit.

If you are not organized or part of an organization. You are just a bloke mad at the world. Theres lots of us.

[Cogburn]

You have a certain point there, but fail to talk about the fact that we are more like the ANTI mission creep. We don't need to organize in identifiable groups. We are cells, interacting, communicating, learning, moving, changing...

Doing nothing. Creating nothing. Fixing nothing. Achieving nothing.

... except for an ever increasingly unlimited supply blog posts, bad theories, and nonsense.

How many angels need you count on the head of a pin before you decide to do something about how they got there?

The Kennedy assassination needed no internet. Watergate needed no internet. 9/11 research needs no internet given that there's never been a single piece of "evidence" that didn't exist in a university library.

Has the internet provided any greater insight into the theory of the faked moon landings? No.
Has the internet brought the 9/11 conspirators to justice? No.
Has the internet expanded the horizons of individuals, or simply provided them with an unlimited, unfiltered selection of additional diversions and falsehoods? The latter.
Has the internet contributed in the highlighting or reduction of corruption? No.

You know what the internet is good for? Broadcasting your works and showing the world that anyone can take a stand where they live.

That is... if you even care that the world hears about it. Most folks who are dedicated to such activities gain their self-worth from the work, not from the accolades.

Beware the internet "activist" that doesn't tell you how it's done, only asks that you fawn over their creations.

Not everything exists on the internet. Most of the real work gets done offline by people you've never heard of doing things which you cannot comprehend.

Be one.

[Snow Crash]

Assume, or common knowlege of forum members. If you were organized, then your assistants will be online viewing and posting intel. Not chatting and ranting over bullshit. Leaders don't have time for this shit.

Haha... Jesus, you really are trying to get a rise, aren't you?

[Royal]

Haha... Jesus, you really are trying to get a rise, aren't you?

It's the mutha fuckin truth. If you think you are, it's sad, because you are not being diligent.

[Snow Crash]

It's the mutha fuckin truth. If you think you are, it's sad, because you are not being diligent.

Well, at least you dropped the pretense of knowing there with that "if"

This still reeks of a fishing effort though.

[Royal]

Well, at least you dropped the pretense of knowing there with that "if"

This still reeks of a fishing effort though.


ahaha, and your trying not to bite! I really wasn't... I'm speaking my thoughts, that's it.

Speaking of fish, I'm going to sleep over at my girlfriends house now. I should of been there two hours ago.

Later.

[Snow Crash]

ahaha, and your trying not to bite! I really wasn't... I'm speaking my thoughts, that's it.

Speaking of fish, I'm going to sleep over at my girlfriends house now. I should of been there two hours ago.

Later.

Just trying to stop less vigilant folks from putting their foot in it by highlighting the old adage that loose lips sink ships. You may have meant to be fishing, you may not have. Your words create the possible scenario, regardless.

[Royal]

Just trying to stop less vigilant folks from putting their foot in it by highlighting the old adage that loose lips sink ships. You may have meant to be fishing, you may not have. Your words create the possible scenario, regardless.

The truth.

But really, taking down a huge system requires an inside job. You will need to network well.

Good luck.

[anarch]

Breaking windows, not so much, Graffiti? Yes. Applied graffiti is my best friend. I also attend local meet ups. Its true I wish more would happen and only on rare occasion do I meet folks willing to act upon their convictions... still I do meet them on occasion.

And the internet helps. I can keep tabs on the exploits of others or offer ideas for other folks to look up. News Papers are a dying medium. These days I suggest product placement with DVDs at redboxes rather then inserting messages into new papers.

It is true if you sit on your ass on a CT forum and claim to be a "web warrior" like the STFU idiots then your not gonna accomplish jack shit. But if you get off your ass, volunteer for the occasional political campaign, practice a bit of thoughtful vandalism, apply your beliefs to reality then shit does happen. I may get cynical after years of applying the method. The change I wish to see is something I have to learn to be patient for. So I keep doing my thing. And if I don't elaborate on it too much its because I am not eager to hang myself with all the rope life is willing to give me.

[Jackinthebox]

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/superjackinthebox/vaderdigital-1.jpg

[Snow Crash]

That old ava was your best jack

[Royal]

Breaking windows, not so much, Graffiti? Yes. Applied graffiti is my best friend. I also attend local meet ups. Its true I wish more would happen and only on rare occasion do I meet folks willing to act upon their convictions... still I do meet them on occasion.

And the internet helps. I can keep tabs on the exploits of others or offer ideas for other folks to look up. News Papers are a dying medium. These days I suggest product placement with DVDs at redboxes rather then inserting messages into new papers.

It is true if you sit on your ass on a CT forum and claim to be a "web warrior" like the STFU idiots then your not gonna accomplish jack shit. But if you get off your ass, volunteer for the occasional political campaign, practice a bit of thoughtful vandalism, apply your beliefs to reality then shit does happen. I may get cynical after years of applying the method. The change I wish to see is something I have to learn to be patient for. So I keep doing my thing. And if I don't elaborate on it too much its because I am not eager to hang myself with all the rope life is willing to give me.


sweet. Hey, there is this graffiti in dt San Diego that has my member name Royal posted repeatedly along a wooden walkway. It's in blue. Did you or any of your henchmen have anything to do with that? It's pretty cool, I'm think of taking a picture of it and using it as an avatar.

[Jackinthebox]

That old ava was your best jack

I'm pissed tho, I can't find the finished one. With the little blinking cursor. It was so key.

[Royal]

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo27/superjackinthebox/vaderdigital-1.jpg

Rebel correctly. Don't create shit storms for good people trying to make a living.

[Jackinthebox]

Rebel correctly. Don't create shit storms for good people trying to make a living.

I rebelled by exercising my right to remain silent. I was beaten, tased, and lost my home as a result.

The best rebels have nothing to lose.

[anarch]

No my art is crude and only political in nature. Slogans in high traffic areas. Search suggestions at learning institutions. Stop signs are fun as hell. STOP war, STOP bush, STOP lying...lots of room to work with stop signs.

Stickers can be fun too. "911 was an inside job" on a cops bumper sends quite a message to people... Even if it gets scraped off the defacing penalties are low and the impact is good.


Never had any henchmen help me... I did do a few runs with friends... very limited circumstances. Mostly I be an army of one. Doing my best to be all that I can be.

[MissSilver]

And read the thread before ya post.


I did.


I do not have much to add, you summed it up pretty good.

We are brainwashed into being consumers.

Works for the majority.

[Royal]

No my art is crude and only political in nature. Slogans in high traffic areas. Search suggestions at learning institutions. Stop signs are fun as hell. STOP war, STOP bush, STOP lying...lots of room to work with stop signs.

Stickers can be fun too. "911 was an inside job" on a cops bumper sends quite a message to people... Even if it gets scraped off the defacing penalties are low and the impact is good.


Never had any henchmen help me... I did do a few runs with friends... very limited circumstances. Mostly I be an army of one. Doing my best to be all that I can be.

ahaha. Thats funny shit! You must love banksy's work.

[Snow Crash]

Regarding giving it the large over the net, I posted this on ATS shortly before I was banned there, in response to post after post in the survival forum that were blatant fishing expeditions, and the responses by net warriors looking to impress by listing their skill sets, their locations, and the amount of guns they had. Its a tad dramatic, but you get the point...

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A Story For All The Revolutionary Types To Consider

Please forgive the long nature of this post. This is a story all the revolutionary types should read. I urge you to read to the end, even if you don't agree with everything said.

Picture this scenario, if you will:

You're a person who has, over the past few years, become increasing disatisfied with the way things are going both in your country and abroad (unless you're one of those ignorant types who is unaware of a world outside your borders). You've been robbed by the government, you've been robbed by their coroporate buddies, and your freedoms are being stripped away. There's a new president in office, but it looks like, despite all his talk, he is working for the same crowd as the previous guy. There's talk of action by the people against the government/system/cartel in charge, and you want to know how you can help out.

So, what do you do? There's noone local you can talk to, as they just want to talk about TV/movies/music/etc. You need something with a wider reach, so youhead to the internet. On the internet, you can talk with people all over the world, connect, network, share ideas and compare ideologies (aka argue over petty party politics if you're a fox new fan).

Anyway, eager to seek out the people you have come searching for, you arrive at a forum that looks suitably filled with disgruntled and angry types. Hey, theres so many pissed off people here you even get right wing conservatives agreeing with those whacko commie leftist hippie types. You know the ones; the ones THEY said were traitors for not rolling out the war paint and flags after 9/11. The ones who told us we were being tricked etc, but we chose not to listen to them, cos they weren't delivering the message with the stars and stripes in the background.

So, it seems you've found a great little online community to get info from. Get that ex marine guy to give you tips on how to take care of your guns. Get that student to show you, in a coded fashion, how to set up crude home made explosives. Get that redneck to show you how to hunt stuff in your local wilderness. Get that crazy philosopher guy to give you some deep political and social insight. You're happy for a while, absorbing whatever you can, but you start to feel restless. You're learning this stuff for a reason, right? When is that reason going to happen?

One day, your impatience gets the better of you, and you start a thread, calling for immediate action. You find there's a lot of responses from people who are pretty much exactly where you are, all pledging to die for the flag etc etc. There's also of course, the people in the thread there to put you down, call you a crazy survivalist, or an unpatriotic sort. If you're really lucky, they might even call you a whacko commie leftist hippie. You engage in a battle of words, feeling invigorated by the responses you get, ignoring that weird chess playing guy who, four pages in, responded to your original post with a cryptic message, urging you to be patient, and to not advertise your strengths online. He says you're giving the enemy intel, but he is just one guy, and all the people supporting you can't be wrong, can they?

Sooner or later, the thread dies out, and you realise that your call for immediate revolution went unheeded. You're disappointed, but you feel good knowing that there's others out there just itching to take action. Then you see a thread where some new guy who appears to know what he is talking about, is calling for the members of the forum to give their locations. He wants to know where people are, so that all the members can form into groups, ready to take action 'when the time comes', as he puts it. He also asks that you list what guns you have. He would also like to know if you have any training or skills that the local group you're assigned to can utilise. You dutifully list your skills and firearms. You even tell them what kind of ammo you prefer.

Anyway, in Real World, the country is getting worse, and a bill is passed that allows the Government to start rounding people up who might cause an issue. 'Domestic Terrorism' they call it. You know who they mean though, and you know that your group is ready to take action.

The very night after you hear about this new bill, a knock at your door sounds. you head downstairs, and open the door, only to find yourself staring down the barrel of a gun. The government's enforcers are here, it seems. Your children scream, and your spouse begs as you are taken away from them. The last thing you see as they slip a black bag over your head is a cip tazing your spouse because they won't do as they are told. You cannot helo though, and you are driven in darkness to a place where you never see daylight, and are questioned about things you don't understand. Your confusion is turned to terror as they begin to beat you, but that changes nothing; you still don't understand what's really going on, what they are after.

After a few months, they let a lawyer in to see you, and the lawyer tells you that you are to be tried as a terrorist. You were of course expecting this sooner or later, and the trial begins as promised. The information used in your prosectuion starts to ring some bells, before suddenly, you realise they are using your own words, your words from the forum. Like that time you promised you'd be the one to pull the trigger on the president. Like that time you told the forum you would fight the police if they ever dared come to your home. And there's that time you egged on that new kid who wanted to go blow up a fed building. The real shock though is when they say that you even began to form a terrorist cell, and they point to all the stuff you said in that thread where the guy called for local groups to be formed. Your prosecutors even tell the court what exactly your role would be in the group, and they show what skills and experience you listed.

Your lawyer is just overwhelmed. He cannot defend your words, even if he was genuinely there to help you. You are duly found guilty, and are shipped off to a prison camp in the middle of nowhere, guarded by some private security thugs who kick you just for looking at them funny.

As you sit in your cell, you think of your family. You also think about where it is you went wrong. You curse the agent who posed as a member of the forum to get you to incriminate yourself. Then you remember that weird chess playing geek who told you not to reveal your hand. He was right, it seems. The voice of patience, with that distinct lack of bravado and chest beating that you found so distasteful, was right.

Then it hits you. The people you were searching for sent a man to warn you to stay low, and you ignored them. The people who could have shown you what to do if you really wanted to make a difference, you dismissed them when they tried to restrain you.

THE PEOPLE WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE INTERNET IS A PUBLIC PLACE AND THAT SHOOTING YOUR MOUTH OFF ON A FORUM HERE IS LIKE SHOOTING IT OFF IN A CROWDED STREET. DO NOT GIVE YOUR ENEMY INTELLIGENCE ABOUT YOURSELF OR YOUR CONNECTIONS.

Have a nice day.

[anarch]

SOmething else good the internet has done. It gave us Anonymous :D and we have done great things GREAT BIG TERRIBLE THINGS LOL

[Royal]

Regarding giving it the large over the net, I posted this on ATS shortly before I was banned there, in response to post after post in the survival forum that were blatant fishing expeditions, and the responses by net warriors looking to impress by listing their skill sets, their locations, and the amount of guns they had. Its a tad dramatic, but you get the point...

-------------

A Story For All The Revolutionary Types To Consider

Please forgive the long nature of this post. This is a story all the revolutionary types should read. I urge you to read to the end, even if you don't agree with everything said.

Picture this scenario, if you will:

You're a person who has, over the past few years, become increasing disatisfied with the way things are going both in your country and abroad (unless you're one of those ignorant types who is unaware of a world outside your borders). You've been robbed by the government, you've been robbed by their coroporate buddies, and your freedoms are being stripped away. There's a new president in office, but it looks like, despite all his talk, he is working for the same crowd as the previous guy. There's talk of action by the people against the government/system/cartel in charge, and you want to know how you can help out.

So, what do you do? There's noone local you can talk to, as they just want to talk about TV/movies/music/etc. You need something with a wider reach, so youhead to the internet. On the internet, you can talk with people all over the world, connect, network, share ideas and compare ideologies (aka argue over petty party politics if you're a fox new fan).

Anyway, eager to seek out the people you have come searching for, you arrive at a forum that looks suitably filled with disgruntled and angry types. Hey, theres so many pissed off people here you even get right wing conservatives agreeing with those whacko commie leftist hippie types. You know the ones; the ones THEY said were traitors for not rolling out the war paint and flags after 9/11. The ones who told us we were being tricked etc, but we chose not to listen to them, cos they weren't delivering the message with the stars and stripes in the background.

So, it seems you've found a great little online community to get info from. Get that ex marine guy to give you tips on how to take care of your guns. Get that student to show you, in a coded fashion, how to set up crude home made explosives. Get that redneck to show you how to hunt stuff in your local wilderness. Get that crazy philosopher guy to give you some deep political and social insight. You're happy for a while, absorbing whatever you can, but you start to feel restless. You're learning this stuff for a reason, right? When is that reason going to happen?

One day, your impatience gets the better of you, and you start a thread, calling for immediate action. You find there's a lot of responses from people who are pretty much exactly where you are, all pledging to die for the flag etc etc. There's also of course, the people in the thread there to put you down, call you a crazy survivalist, or an unpatriotic sort. If you're really lucky, they might even call you a whacko commie leftist hippie. You engage in a battle of words, feeling invigorated by the responses you get, ignoring that weird chess playing guy who, four pages in, responded to your original post with a cryptic message, urging you to be patient, and to not advertise your strengths online. He says you're giving the enemy intel, but he is just one guy, and all the people supporting you can't be wrong, can they?

Sooner or later, the thread dies out, and you realise that your call for immediate revolution went unheeded. You're disappointed, but you feel good knowing that there's others out there just itching to take action. Then you see a thread where some new guy who appears to know what he is talking about, is calling for the members of the forum to give their locations. He wants to know where people are, so that all the members can form into groups, ready to take action 'when the time comes', as he puts it. He also asks that you list what guns you have. He would also like to know if you have any training or skills that the local group you're assigned to can utilise. You dutifully list your skills and firearms. You even tell them what kind of ammo you prefer.

Anyway, in Real World, the country is getting worse, and a bill is passed that allows the Government to start rounding people up who might cause an issue. 'Domestic Terrorism' they call it. You know who they mean though, and you know that your group is ready to take action.

The very night after you hear about this new bill, a knock at your door sounds. you head downstairs, and open the door, only to find yourself staring down the barrel of a gun. The government's enforcers are here, it seems. Your children scream, and your spouse begs as you are taken away from them. The last thing you see as they slip a black bag over your head is a cip tazing your spouse because they won't do as they are told. You cannot helo though, and you are driven in darkness to a place where you never see daylight, and are questioned about things you don't understand. Your confusion is turned to terror as they begin to beat you, but that changes nothing; you still don't understand what's really going on, what they are after.

After a few months, they let a lawyer in to see you, and the lawyer tells you that you are to be tried as a terrorist. You were of course expecting this sooner or later, and the trial begins as promised. The information used in your prosectuion starts to ring some bells, before suddenly, you realise they are using your own words, your words from the forum. Like that time you promised you'd be the one to pull the trigger on the president. Like that time you told the forum you would fight the police if they ever dared come to your home. And there's that time you egged on that new kid who wanted to go blow up a fed building. The real shock though is when they say that you even began to form a terrorist cell, and they point to all the stuff you said in that thread where the guy called for local groups to be formed. Your prosecutors even tell the court what exactly your role would be in the group, and they show what skills and experience you listed.

Your lawyer is just overwhelmed. He cannot defend your words, even if he was genuinely there to help you. You are duly found guilty, and are shipped off to a prison camp in the middle of nowhere, guarded by some private security thugs who kick you just for looking at them funny.

As you sit in your cell, you think of your family. You also think about where it is you went wrong. You curse the agent who posed as a member of the forum to get you to incriminate yourself. Then you remember that weird chess playing geek who told you not to reveal your hand. He was right, it seems. The voice of patience, with that distinct lack of bravado and chest beating that you found so distasteful, was right.

Then it hits you. The people you were searching for sent a man to warn you to stay low, and you ignored them. The people who could have shown you what to do if you really wanted to make a difference, you dismissed them when they tried to restrain you.

THE PEOPLE WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE INTERNET IS A PUBLIC PLACE AND THAT SHOOTING YOUR MOUTH OFF ON A FORUM HERE IS LIKE SHOOTING IT OFF IN A CROWDED STREET. DO NOT GIVE YOUR ENEMY INTELLIGENCE ABOUT YOURSELF OR YOUR CONNECTIONS.

Have a nice day.


Interesting.






If I was CIA. I would push myself into every CT forum possible or even be the leader of the movement so that it's a controlled burn. Bottom line, calling for action over the internet or even recruiting is a dangerous task.

[Snow Crash]

Interesting.

If I was CIA. I would push myself into every CT forum possible or even be the leader of the movement so that it's a controlled burn. Bottom line, calling for action over the internet or even recruiting is a dangerous task.

Exactly. And imo, people need to be wary of people openly playing Che on places like ATS, or anywhere else for that matter. Its so easy nowdays to get people to just hand over intel.

Info Hygeine is your friend. Shit, even if you're not a rebel, its still your friend. Places like Facebook make my skin crawl.

[anarch]

Interesting.






If I was CIA. I would push myself into every CT forum possible or even be the leader of the movement so that it's a controlled burn. Bottom line, calling for action over the internet or even recruiting is a dangerous task.

And this is exactly why I dislike pieces of shit like Alex Jones and Jack Von Kliest. I would not trust them as far as I could throw them... Going to the meet ups I get to meet some of these puke stains personally. Most of the are regular HAL TURNERS the lot of them. ... I especially dislike AJ... Meh... Thats a scorpion best left unpoked...

Now STFU and Warrens crew... lol... I wait to see the day they call for action.

[Triangle]

This is why the internet is evil: it's used as a substitute for participation in groups in their community that can take real action.

CT'ers cry "I'd love to do something like that but there's no one else near me that sees it!" The obvious solution is to troll the internet "reaching out" for "like minded" individuals, right?

All of the revolutionary thought, literature, music and philosophy that emerged from the 1960s happened without the internet. The Renaissance happened without the internet.

How did that happen? People talked to each other. The coffee house intelligencia isn't dead. If no one believes you then you have two choices: refine your argument until someone does or consider the possibility that you are just wrong. If you're lucky, perhaps you'll run into someone that actually has something going on and you could participate.

I guess it doesn't exist unless its in a forum or you can Google for it. I guess there's no possibility what-so-ever of you making it in your community, yourself.

CT'ers are just whiny, lazy bitches that, were they alive 400 years ago, would be hunting for witches and heretics on behalf of the Inquisition.

Hallelujah, couldn't have put it better myself.

It always amazes me that in the age of mass communication people are whining about being powerless.

One thing I didn't like about ATS was the fact that you couldn't collaborate on any meaningful projects, it was against the T+C's. Thus all that energy could never go anywhere.

Anyway, the Internet is young yet, give it time.

[anarch]

It always amazes me that in the age of mass communication people are whining about being powerless.



A rule of life I do my best to live by:

Never ask ANYTHING of ANYONE that you can get for yourself.

Basically if your ignorant learn. If your weak exercise. If you want to change the world be willing to stand on the front line.Above all,don't rely on others.

[mojo]

Pretty much in agreeance with most of what you say royal, but i'd take it a step further. Even most of the rich don't know what the fuck is going on, in most cases they don't even realise the amount of indirect control they have imo.
Whilst i'm pretty sure there are organizations or societies that attempt to steer or direct or influence for their own means or agenda i think they are mostly inept, and probably working against one another.

a thread of mine where i discuss some similar concepts.

NWO=No World Order (http://amkon.net/showthread.php?t=15614&highlight=world+order)

You go on CT websites and bitch rather then organizing and using your brain to restructure the system.

i've changed my mind a bit on this point. while i think there is more we can all do to actively influence society, i believe that our (members of ct forums) activity on these forums and the discussion of the topics we undertake do have value.
communication and sharing of knowledge and information can only be a good thing. and if it causes some to ponder and think things they may not have ordinarily then that can only be positive.

[Jackinthebox]

Interesting.

If I was CIA. I would push myself into every CT forum possible or even be the leader of the movement so that it's a controlled burn. Bottom line, calling for action over the internet or even recruiting is a dangerous task.

You can't recruit over the internet. You cannot carry out ops ocer the internet. It can be used as a tool in a limited cpapcity, but you have no idea the capacity by which you are being observed.

[anarch]

Legions of ANON and the CoS says your wrong about that jack

[Jackinthebox]

Legions of ANON and the CoS says your wrong about that jack

OKay.

[mojo]

You can't recruit over the internet. You cannot carry out ops ocer the internet.

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[hp]

If we are under the control of the NWO now then, IMO, it is not OK and it is going to get worse.

[skunk]

If we are under the control of the NWO now then, IMO, it is not OK and it is going to get worse.

Amen.

[Cogburn]

i've changed my mind a bit on this point. while i think there is more we can all do to actively influence society, i believe that our (members of ct forums) activity on these forums and the discussion of the topics we undertake do have value.
communication and sharing of knowledge and information can only be a good thing. and if it causes some to ponder and think things they may not have ordinarily then that can only be positive.
I'm wondering if our ideas aren't similar, in that contributions of personal achievements might inspire others to similar action in their locale.

I'm still doubtful that the internet really spawns any new conversation or leads to the revelation of any significant information.

[anarch]

I'm wondering if our ideas aren't similar, in that contributions of personal achievements might inspire others to similar action in their locale.

I'm still doubtful that the internet really spawns any new conversation or leads to the revelation of any significant information.

Wow I'm surprised at you. I mean it is the internet that united the unwashed masses to stand against CoS is it not?

And the information that is spread on this thing... Learn different languages, Learn about fresnel lenses , Learn how to make a bomb, learn how to disarm a bomb... Apply all of this to have fun CoS events.

[Cogburn]

Scientology has been under justified assault and protest for decades. The only thing notable about Operation Clambake is the inclusion of Guy Fawkes masks. Truly the only thing that makes Anonymous notable has been the visceral reaction of Scientology, attempting to label it a "terrorist organization" and what not: it only gave the movement fuel.

All of the other knowledge you mention could be obtained at a local library, and if not there then certainly a university library. Flash mobs are entertainment. The only thing the internet has done for activism is given you an excuse not to leave the house and a new venue by which to seek out your 15 minutes.

[anarch]

And people accuse me of cynicism?

[Cogburn]

That's not cynicism, merely putting the current actions a broader historical perspective.

Without such perspective you eventually end up making mistakes you could have avoided because someone already committed them.

[anarch]

Meh... When folks get arrested for twittering the where abouts of the police at protests I think it shows that the internet can be used as a great activist tool. Granted when you speak of past mistakes I think that example shows us NOT TO USE OUR OWN ACCOUNTS WITH OUR ACTUAL INFO...(Like duh)...I think we both have fair points.

Many use the internet as a bitch fest podium to say alot and accomplish little.

Others know that the internet is a tool that can assist in activist activities but not something to rely solely upon to motivate folks into action.

Being the change you want to see in the world means doing more than blogging your discontent.

I am reasonable sure you'd agree with that last statement. Am I right?

[Cogburn]

Totally.

[mojo]

All of the other knowledge you mention could be obtained at a local library, and if not there then certainly a university library.

whilst thats true cog, it is certainly much easier, and in some instances safer to do it from home.
i love that i can be watching a nat geo program at home with my daughter and she asks me a question that i have no answer for. immediately she can go onto the internet and research the topic for herself and have an answer in seconds.
maybe if she had to wait to the next day to go to the library to find the answer she may have already forgotten all about it or lost interest.
plus our local library is pretty shit, local govt doesn't put money into library's anymore.

[Cogburn]

Most of the posters here are exceptions to the rule when it comes to utilizing the internet for research.

Using whale.to as justification for anything would get you laughed off the forum.

The discrimination of the public at large is not nearly so refined.

[mojo]

The discrimination of the public at large is not nearly so refined.

hahaha....well thats true.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Oh no! Consumerism is NOT evil? FFS don't tell cockburn.

[Cogburn]

Consumerism and marketing only profits from ignorance. Our power not to say no, our friends and family not to say no.

Oh no! Consumerism is NOT evil? FFS don't tell cockburn.

Holy shit you make this too easy.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Holy shit you make this too easy.

Didn't the title of the thread imply that consumerism wasn't evil?

[Snow Crash]

Didn't the title of the thread imply that consumerism wasn't evil?

STFU IEF... remember, money is your god...

http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/they_live_6.jpg

[Cogburn]

Didn't the title of the thread imply that consumerism wasn't evil?

You didn't actually read the OP, did you?

sar⋅casm  [sahr-kaz-uhm]
–noun
1. harsh or bitter derision or irony.
2. a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark: a review full of sarcasms.

Like I said, too easy.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

You didn't actually read the OP, did you?

sar⋅casm  [sahr-kaz-uhm]
–noun
1. harsh or bitter derision or irony.
2. a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark: a review full of sarcasms.

Like I said, too easy.

Meh...

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

STFU IEF... remember, money is your god...

http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/they_live_6.jpg

Hahah. Money can't buy happiness but it's a damn good downpayment. ;)

[Snow Crash]

Hahah. Money can't buy happiness but it's a damn good downpayment. ;)

It's a means to an end, nothing more, nothing less. Live for money, you miss living for life.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

It's a means to an end, nothing more, nothing less

Co-sign. And I don't live for it. I just enjoy it (is that ok with you cog?) ;)

[Cogburn]

Fine by me.

When you're 50 and I'm 65 and I own the buildings that you and your grandkids live in, don't you dare be late on the rent a single month.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Fine by me.

When you're 50 and I'm 65 and I own the buildings that you and your grandkids live in, don't you dare be late on the rent a single month.

And when I own my own porno agency you better buy all my flicks so your wife can have some type of outlet to satisfy her desire for black cock. Deal?

[skunk]

Ha, have fun with your STDs.

[Snow Crash]

Cogburn is a fan of Monopoly. He will own all the green cards, the purple cards, the yellow cards AND the utilities. All your hotel are belng to him...... until he gets the card demanding he make general repairs to his properties, in which case he'll mortgage the yellow streets where IEF lives.

[Cogburn]

And when I own my own porno agency you better buy all my flicks so your wife can have some type of outlet to satisfy her desire for black cock. Deal?

That's it? That's what you come back with?

That's so fucking lame it's painful. Jesus dude, just stop posting and take your online asswhipping like a man.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

That's it? That's what you come back with?

That's so fucking lame it's painful. Jesus dude, just stop posting and take your online asswhipping like a man.

When you do the same to all the online asswhippings snow hands out to ya, I'll consider it. :D

[Cogburn]

When you do the same to all the online asswhippings snow hands out to ya, I'll consider it. :D

That's the second time you've attempted to get Snow to bail you out. Snow doesn't win, Snow simply doesn't back down. There's a difference.

However, let's see if he takes the bait this time and jumps in in an attempt to save your silly ass.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

That's the second time you've attempted to get Snow to bail you out. Snow doesn't win, Snow simply doesn't back down. There's a difference.

However, let's see if he takes the bait this time and jumps in to save your silly ass.

Wrong. It's just the truth. :D Stop denying it.

[Cogburn]

Wrong. It's just the truth. :D Stop denying it.

Hahaha... He passed. In an out of this thread like a ghost.

Now what do you have for me, boy?

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Hahaha... He passed. In an out of this thread like a ghost.


Which completely destroys your implication that I need him to save me. Faggot.

[Cogburn]

Ouch. Logic fail.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Ouch. The truth hurt me again.

I've got more truth for ya too cock. Just keep replying and I'll feed it to ya. ;)

[Snow Crash]

Hahaha... He passed. In an out of this thread like a ghost.

Why would I disrupt something I am finding mildly entertaining? We have here a time travelling amkon original drama. In the future, you own his house. In the future, he keeps your wife happy. Its like a twisted soap opera version of Back To The Future, imo. We just need Pack to play the mad scientist who turns a Harley Davidson into a time machine.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Why would I disrupt something I am finding mildly entertaining? We have here a time travelling amkon original drama. In the future, you own his house. In the future, he keeps your wife happy. Its like a twisted soap opera version of Back To The Future, imo. We just need Pack to play the mad scientist who turns a Harley Davidson into a time machine.

He's actually wanting you to join in so he can validate his belief that I need you. :D

[mojo]

you all fail without some alien guidance system.

[WITCH HUNT]

And when I own my own porno agency you better buy all my flicks so your wife can have some type of outlet to satisfy her desire for black cock. Deal?

AHAHAHAHAHA! Every fucking thread it's the same thing! IEF, did you even read the latest ab flex post?

"READ A BOOK! READ A BOOK! READ A MOTHER FUCKING BOOK!

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

AHAHAHAHAHA! Every fucking thread it's the same thing! IEF, did you even read the latest ab flex post?

"READ A BOOK! READ A BOOK! READ A MOTHER FUCKING BOOK!

I'm currently reading a book all about cognitive psychology thank you very much. You're another dumbass who constantly speaks on shit you don't know anything about aren't you?

[WITCH HUNT]

Sure you are, ief, sure you are. And Al Sharpton really cares about Equal rights!

[theeindiee]

Listen.... sit down, shut up, and get loaded. Fucking assholes.

[Triangle]

Funny skirmish between IEF and Cogburn...

My vote goes to IEF for winner.

* * *

Interesting discussion. I think a lot of us agree that the internet isn't living up to it's potential. All those hours spent blogging are translating to little effective change in the real world.

The most aware people, society's future leaders, are caught up in a dragnet of fear porn and stagnant debate when they should be out spreading the word on the new technologies and other practical solutions. Look at Swine Flu threads on ATS; more swine flu threads were created than people actually died in the 'outbreak'.

The problem isn't the internet, it's man's tendency to squander and waste every gift that he creates for himself.

-The Telephone could be used to organise and spread information but 50 per cent of the time it's used for chitter chatter.
-Youtube could bring about a democratic revolution of awareness the likes of which mankind has never seen, but most of the time pictures of puppies hit the front page.
-Facebook could be an awesome networking tool to organise rallies and groups but most people are using it to tell their mates how they pissed away the weekend.

The problem lies not with the technology but man's childishness and weakness of spirit, and inability to self-organise.

That will change though, the internet world is finding its feet like a toddler.

[skunk]

The problem lies not with the technology but man's childishness and weakness of spirit, and inability to self-organise.

Well said.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

My vote goes to IEF for winner.


Without snow, it couldn't have been possible. :rolleyes:

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Sure you are, ief, sure you are. And Al Sharpton really cares about Equal rights!

I sure am. And Al Sharpton is an uncle tom. So fuck him.

[Cogburn]

99% of the forum could agree with IEF and all it would mean is that 99% of the forum is just as stupid.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

99% of the forum could agree with IEF and all it would mean is that 99% of the forum is just as stupid.

Because if the cog says it, it must be true.

[Cogburn]

Because if the cog says it, it must be true.

More often than not and much to your continued dismay.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

More often than not and much to your continued dismay.

:lol:

You really believe all the BS you spew don't you?

[Cogburn]

You really believe all the BS you spew don't you?

Absolutely, and you'll notice that all like individuals which are self-focused, confident and mentally centered are easy to spot, even on the internet.

That would be in direct contrast to you and your need to buy into a particular consumerist image and then sell it back to us as if it were your own personality.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Absolutely, and you'll notice that all like individuals which are self-focused, confident and mentally centered are easy to spot, even on the internet.

That would be in direct contrast to you and your need to buy into a particular consumerist image and then sell it back to us as if it were your own personality.

And it's also pretty fucking easy to spot people who think they know every goddamn thing when it's clearly obvious they don't. Which are people like you. You continue to label me a goddamn consumerist when I've never claimed to be one nor am I one. You also continue to act like every fucking notion you have about me is accurate when it's far from it. It's all good though. As long as your faithful cocksuckers eye and royal continue to gobble down your cock, all will be well with you.

The sad thing is is that people like are you totally oblivious to how many people really think you're just another know it all full of hot air.

[Royal]

I must come back to the arena...


http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/805863078/Bruce-Lee.jpg

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Fetterhoff.

[Cogburn]

The sad thing is is that people like are you totally oblivious to how many people really think you're just another know it all full of hot air.
Even worse is that you think I give two shits if they do.

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Even worse is that you think I give two shits if they do.

Just stating facts man. Just stating facts.

[Cogburn]

Hahaha... start another poll.

[Royal]

IEF

How old are you. Sometimes it's not what we know, but how we perceive you.

Although it's the internet, your short text and ability to start middle-school drama in every thread you go gives us a pretty good clue on how you interact with society.


We don't have to know a fucking thing about you to know that your a consumerist, non-book reading , toe licking , ...


Buy some land nigga.



http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/805863078/brucelee_penos_ownage.gif

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

IEF

How old are you. Sometimes it's not what we know, but how we perceive you.

Although it's the internet, your short text and ability to start middle-school drama in every thread you go gives us a pretty good clue on how you interact with society.


We don't have to know a fucking thing about you to know that your a consumerist, non-book reading , toe licking , ...


Buy some land nigga.



http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/805863078/brucelee_penos_ownage.gif

Ah yes. Just as I expected. The loyal cheerleader begins to wave his pom poms in the air ever so enthusiastically while on the sidelines. All too predictable and see through.

The common denominator between you, eye, and cock is that you genuinely believe everything you say is affective. The common denominator between just you and eye however, is that it's clearly obvious that neither of you feel as affective as your buddy cock. Which is very sad. I bet after you log off after reading one of cock's failed attempts to try and pwn me, you think to yourself.."so THAT'S how he wins flame wars!!111!!!oneone I ought to remember that the next time I engage in one" What you fail to realize is that if you weren't a faithful minion of his, he wouldn't give a damn about your existance here.

Anyway, instead of taking notes on how cock desperately tries to prove his superiority in flame wars, you ought to take notes on the game I could bless you for your dealings with the opposite sex. You've already recognized that I possess it due to the fact you realized I knew wtf I was talking about when I laced you up with some knowledge regarding independant women. I'm pretty sure you could use more. In fact, I know you'd love to have me lace you up with more.



My vote goes to IEF for winner.


Co-sign. :D

[mojo]

Look at Swine Flu threads on ATS; more swine flu threads were created than people actually died in the 'outbreak'.



:lol:

too true.

[theeindiee]

duuude I'm moving to the UK.

[Snow Crash]

duuude I'm moving to the UK.

You wouldn't last ten seconds here.

[theeindiee]

I would last an eternity there.

[Snow Crash]

I would last an eternity there.

Haha... if you insist. I'd take odds on you either leaving in a hurry or becoming a recluse.

[theeindiee]

I've already become a recluse. That's boring. People are just too silly to be afraid of anymore. Look at how weird humans look! What are those moving balls inside that oval thing on top of their rectangular looking thing? What's that noise they're making!?!? How unpleasant and absurd!!

[Eyeforalie]

...., you ought to take notes on the game I could bless you for your dealings with the opposite sex.

Edit for verbosity.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/57/Eazy-E32.jpg

So you'd consider yourself pretty eazy iEf?

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

Edit for verbosity.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/57/Eazy-E32.jpg

So you'd consider yourself pretty eazy iEf?

http://amkon.net/its-poll-time-once-t24462p8.html

You'll learn soon enough. ;)

[skunk]

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/392801/80632091.jpg

[skunk]

This one's better actually

http://www.zpersonals.com.au/images/thug-life-beer-belly-ex-boyfriend1.jpg

[Snow Crash]

This one's better actually

http://www.zpersonals.com.au/images/thug-life-beer-belly-ex-boyfriend1.jpg

Ok that is just disturbing. I could've gone through life happy without seeing that shit.

[Eyeforalie]

You'll learn soon enough. ;)

Since you really want me to answer that...done.

[Royal]

Ah yes. Just as I expected. The loyal cheerleader begins to wave his pom poms in the air ever so enthusiastically while on the sidelines. All too predictable and see through.

The common denominator between you, eye, and cock is that you genuinely believe everything you say is affective. The common denominator between just you and eye however, is that it's clearly obvious that neither of you feel as affective as your buddy cock. Which is very sad. I bet after you log off after reading one of cock's failed attempts to try and pwn me, you think to yourself.."so THAT'S how he wins flame wars!!111!!!oneone I ought to remember that the next time I engage in one" What you fail to realize is that if you weren't a faithful minion of his, he wouldn't give a damn about your existance here.

Anyway, instead of taking notes on how cock desperately tries to prove his superiority in flame wars, you ought to take notes on the game I could bless you for your dealings with the opposite sex. You've already recognized that I possess it due to the fact you realized I knew wtf I was talking about when I laced you up with some knowledge regarding independant women. I'm pretty sure you could use more. In fact, I know you'd love to have me lace you up with more.

Co-sign. :D

:cheers: oh. You mad.


derrrrrrrr



Here is your kind of independent woman.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/805863078/250px-Smoking_Crack.jpg

[Snow Crash]

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/805863078/250px-Smoking_Crack.jpg

You, post op?

[Royal]

You, post op?

:smokers:

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

:cheers: oh. You mad.


derrrrrrrr



Here is your kind of independent woman.



Fixt. ;)

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

You, post op?

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa86/etothedouble/tiplol.gif

[Royal]

She wears black people like the hottest baby phat jacket. She will get sick of the style and get a new one.

But really, if that's really your girl, I hope you got permission from her to post her picture up. I would think most girls wouldn't want that.

Is her name Jessica?

[Cogburn]

Eric Erickson?

[Royal]

Eric Erickson?

oh, he's post op?

[Lexion]

Barbi Satin ?

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

She wears black people like the hottest baby phat jacket. She will get sick of the style and get a new one.

Or maybe she just doesn't care what color a man is and digs them if they're cool and got tight game? Ever consider that?

But really, if that's really your girl

We're friends with benefits.

Is her name Jessica?

No.

[mojo]

bleh

[Infinite`Eternal`Forever]

bleh

Co-sign.

[anarch]

Here is your kind of independent wo man.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/805863078/250px-Smoking_Crack.jpg

FIXT
THATS A MAN BABY!